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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0001689 | T99X171.00 SKB Eagle | SW Issue | public | 2023-03-27 13:07 | 2024-05-09 13:30 |
| Reporter | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Assigned To | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Due Date | 2023-03-27 14:04 |
| Priority | high | Severity | s4-minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | not fixable | ||
| Summary | 0001689: [Smart3][ATV12] check free space | ||||
| Description | Hi Kerwin There are currently two apps(TrichromeLibrary / WebViewGoogle) compressed at ATV12 FW In order to get ATV12 Google approval in the future, these two must be decompressed. To decompress, I must report the current status to SKB exactly. 1) How much free space is there in the current state? (TrichromeLibrary/WebViewGoogle were compressed ) 2) How much more space do FW need to decompress for these two apps(ThromeLibrary/WebViewGoogle)? 3) There are two apps I want to suggest to delete. - YoutubeKids - apple_tvplus Is it okay to remove only YouTube Kids when decompressed? Is it okay to remove both YouTube Kids and apple_tvplus when decompressed? Please check and let me know as soon as possible Thank you YK.Jung | ||||
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Hi Sam Yang Please update what has been confirmed so far. Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi Younkwang, Original version: WebViewGoogle-Stub(768k) + WebViewGoogle.apk.gz(5M) + TrichromeLibrary-Stub(24k) + TrichromeLibrary(45M) = 50.792M uncompression version: 11M ./product/app/WebViewGoogle/WebViewGoogle.apk + 76M ./product/app/TrichromeLibrary/TrichromeLibrary.apk = 87M The space increases 36.208M, so I try to remove YoutubeKids & apple_tvplus, and there is enough space for create a FW image. Thanks~ Sam |
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Hi Sam Yang 1) How much free space is there in the current state? (when TrichromeLibrary/WebViewGoogle were compressed ) 2) Is it possible to build when you only remove YouTube Kids? 3) The size of apple_tvplus.apk differs when it is included in bitbucket and FW. -rw-rw-r-- 1 jglory jglory 20226703 3월 28 19:03 apple_tvplus.apk -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34193075 2009-01-01 09:00 apple_tvplus.apk Why does this happen? Then what should we calculate the actual size during build? < bitbucket apple_tvplus size > drwxrwxr-x 2 jglory jglory 4096 3월 28 19:03 . drwxrwxr-x 39 jglory jglory 4096 3월 28 19:06 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 jglory jglory 64 3월 28 19:03 .git -> ../../../../.repo/projects/vendor/skb/prebuilts/apple_tvplus.git -rw-rw-r-- 1 jglory jglory 311 3월 28 19:03 Android.mk -rw-rw-r-- 1 jglory jglory 47 3월 28 19:03 README -rw-rw-r-- 1 jglory jglory 20226703 3월 28 19:03 apple_tvplus.apk -rw-rw-r-- 1 jglory jglory 41 3월 28 19:03 install_prebuilt.mk -rw-rw-r-- 1 jglory jglory 6 3월 28 19:03 version.txt jglory@alt-MINIPC-PN50:~/work/data/skb_source/BFX-AT100_5.3.7_DEV/vendor/skb/prebuilts/apple_tvplus$ < apple_tvplus.apk in FW > console:/vendor/app/apple_tvplus # ls -al total 33400 drwxr-xr-x 2 root shell 4096 2009-01-01 09:00 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root shell 4096 2009-01-01 09:00 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34193075 2009-01-01 09:00 apple_tvplus.apk 4) first, I would like to suggest a way to remove YouTube kids.apk and use PAI. please let me know about the risks that may occur when upgrading from FW(v15.534.28) with YouTubeKids to FW(v15.537.xx) without YouTubeKids https://jira.skbroadband.com/projects/FSTB12/issues/FSTB12-109 Thank you YK.Jung |
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HI Sam I was discussing it with SKB about the free size check. I received a request from SKB for confirmation of the following two items. 1) Google Test has been failed since the Test Tool update when TrichromeLibrary/WebViewGoogle were compressed Can you raise an objection to Google about this Google Test fail? 2) An Google Test failure is occurring when using GoogleTTS.apk(small size) as an older version. GoogleTTS app is an option app. therefore, can you raise an issue about this fail item to Google as a condition of the option app? I'm sending you the information because it's SKB's request. Please review whether the actual request is possible and give me your opinion. Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi Younkwang, About comment "0012667": 1) Still figuring out... 2) Yes, the space is enough only removing YoutubeKids (TrichromeLibrary/WebViewGoogle uncompressed) 3) In FW, the size of "apple_tvplus.apk" is 33M. (this is the real size efforting the image) eagle12/out/target/product/BFX-AT100$ du -sh ./vendor/app/apple_tvplus/apple_tvplus.apk 33M ./vendor/app/apple_tvplus/apple_tvplus.apk 4) I'll try it and tell you the result. But I think OTA won't trigger PAI, the APP won't be installed. About comment "0012674": 1) We'll have an internal discussion... 2) I have tried to remove "GoogleTTS" and run gts test failed. The result shows that "Required Speech Services by Google APK not found": "image.png" According to GTVS requirement: Android TV must comply with the GMS requirements. And according GMS requirement: "GoogleTTS" must be preloaded: "image-2.png", "image-3.png" |
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Hi YK, The compressed Webview/Trichrome we got from ATV11 GTVS_branch, Google didn't formal apply it in ATV12 GTVS. the ATV device MUST follow GTVS requirement, and GTVS requirement comply with the GMS requirements I've checked GMS requirements (Please refer to GMS_WebView.jpg) I think Google added new GTS test case (testTrichromeLibraryVersionsMatch) to test 1.) if Webview/Trichrome is preload or not (Compressed apk is not preload, because the compressed apk will be decompressed to /data partition) 2.) if the version between Webview and Trichrome MUST be same. It's hard to raise an objection. because it will violate requirement. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason There is an additional request from SKB for confirmation https://jira.skbroadband.com/browse/FSTB12-3 You received a compressed Webview/Trichrome apk from GTVS_branch on ATV11. If so, does ATV11 officially support the app compressed method? SKB is asking if ATV11 is supported and ATV12 is not supported on apk compression. And in the '22 Android Google bootcamp, there was a mention of apk compression. SKB thinks there will be some content about apk compression somewhere. Can you ask 3PL or Google about this apk compression? ( SKB wants to know how to pass Google test despite apk compression or if there is a way to get approval even though it failed. ) Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, >>If so, does ATV11 officially support the app compressed method? Google supported the Webview/TrichromeLibrary compression as "optional" (not default) in GTVS_branch on ATV11. >>And in the '22 Android Google bootcamp, there was a mention of apk compression. I haven't found the related information on 22 Android bootcamp, I only can find GTVS_APK_SIZE.jpg (Please refer to GTVS_APK_SIZE.jpg) The "App Hibernation" is for GoogleTV not AndroidTV. Based on my experience, it's hard to request waiver currently. In my opinion, For the space issue, I think Google will ask SKB to use PAI, If you want to challenge the size of GTVS packages, Similarly, Google will try to review SKB's apk space. (Because most of other customers hasn't request it) At that time, the 2nd webview/trichromelibary the SKB used will be the sensitive problem. You can refer to https://mantis.cnsbg.foxconn.com/vaas/view.php?id=1578 There is an test case in GTS that check customer webview, you can see the comment in source code "Only Google prebuilt webview is allowed, but customized webviews are found". I haven' found this requirement in GTVS/GMS requirement, but it looks like Google doesn't allow customer use their webview. Now SPTEK rename the package name (same as the debug package in whitelist) of 2nd webview to workaround it. If Google want to check this, I think it's going to be sensitive. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Sam About below comment https://mantis.cnsbg.foxconn.com/vaas/view.php?id=1689#c12681 >> 2) I have tried to remove "GoogleTTS" and run gts test failed. The result shows that "Required Speech Services by Google APK not found": My question is It does not remove GoogleTTS, but refers to the fail that occurs when you change to an old version with a small size. and SKB's confirmation request is GoogleTTS app is an option app. therefore, can you raise an issue about this fail item to Google as a condition of the option app? Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, GoogleTTS app is "NOT" an option app. Please check comment https://mantis.cnsbg.foxconn.com/vaas/view.php?id=1689#c12681 According to GTVS requirement: Android TV must comply with the GMS requirements. And according GMS requirement: "GoogleTTS" must be preloaded: Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Younkwang, We have tried the old version GoogleTTS before, but there was another GTS item to check its version. Refer to this commit: (at vendor/google_gtvs) Commit: Peter Chen <peterch.ch.chen@mail.foxconn.com> CommitDate: Wed Dec 14 14:34:46 2022 +0800 fix gts, revert "use smaller size version GoogleTTS" module: GtsSpeechServicesTestCases case: testDeviceHasCorrectSpeechApkByDeviceLevel testDeviceHasSpeechServicesAsDefaultRecognizer testProvidedIMEEnabledByDefault This reverts commit 96e6abdb2142a932df8ad393e74c94cb25a7d464. Thanks~ |
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Hi Sam INTEK mentioned that GoogleTTS has been updated again and the file size has increased. Please check how much it has increased. And - decompresse WebViewGoogle TrichromeLibrary ( do not use stub.apk ) - update GoogleTTS - remove YoutubeKids => Please check if FW build is possible in this state. And in the case of INTEK, it is said that the test is in progress after compressing the zemkids. When we tested it before, there was an issue that could not be updated.. So I'll keep an eye on the status of INTEK. Thank you YK.Jung |
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HI Sam Please update the progress. Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi Sam Yang SKB manager keeps saying that Google TTS is not mandatory based on the link below. Could you check the link below? , (share what this link is about.) https://docs.partner.android.com/tv/build/integrate/android-10#apps) And if I look at the link path, it seems to be the ATV10 link. Please check if there is a similar content in ATV12. Thank you YK.jung |
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Hi YK, I've checked https://docs.partner.android.com/tv/build/integrate/android-12#apps I think Google didn't check their document carefully. Sometimes they said "MUST', sometimes they said "MAY" Please also check GMS announcements as follows, I think this is why if we remove it from FW, we will get GTS failures, because device "MUST" preload it. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Sam Yang (Reminder) https://mantis.cnsbg.foxconn.com/vaas/view.php?id=1689#c12908 - Update to latest code UI537 - decompresse WebViewGoogle TrichromeLibrary ( do not use stub.apk ) - update GTVS , GoogleTTS ... - remove YoutubeKids => Please check if FW build is possible in this state. Thank you YK.Jung |
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OK, I'll use the newest code base and update "GoogleTTS" to test~ |
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Hi YK, The ATV TAM said that GoogleTTS is optional, they will correct information of https://docs.partner.android.com/tv/build/integrate/android-12#apps But they also need to check it with GTS team, because if we remove GoogleTTS, we will encounter GTS failures. https://issuetracker.google.com/279339669 Thanks, Jason |
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Hi YK, About https://172.18.223.170/vaas/view.php?id=1689#c12946, (- Update to latest code UI537 - decompresse WebViewGoogle TrichromeLibrary ( do not use stub.apk ) - update GTVS , GoogleTTS ... - remove YoutubeKids => Please check if FW build is possible in this state.) => There is not enough space for building FW. (Partition product is part of group amlogic_dynamic_partitions which does not have enough space free (578301952 requested, 1115443200 used out of 1686110208)) Thanks~ Sam |
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Hi Jason About https://mantis.cnsbg.foxconn.com/vaas/view.php?id=1689#c12965 GoogleTTS is optional , is it possible to waiver or test skip if test fail(GTS failures) occur? SKB is also requesting to receive official opinion from 3PL or Google. Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, The TV TAM said that GoogleTTS is optional. But he is confirming with GTS team, There is no update, I pushed 3PL to check it again this morning. Currently, we haven't got any official waiver. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason Is there a feedback from GTS team or Google? Thanks YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, I checked this ticket with 3PL this morning. 3PL said that Google is still discussing this issue internally. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason I have one question GoogleTTS.apk is optional. If you put the old/small size version of the GoogleTTS.apk file as the prebult I don't think there will be any problem if 3PL do all the app updates before starting the Google test. Is there any problem if 3PL proceed like this? Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, I think it's possible solution. I need to check it. But there will be a potential risk. if there was a vulnerability in older GoogleTTS, and Google fix it in the new version. and we prebuilt older GoogleTTS in final FW, we will encounter BTS fail. because BTS need to scan image files, we don't have any opportunity to update the app before upload image to Google Server. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi YK, I've checked your suggestion (prebuilt smaller/older GoogleTTS and update newer GoogleTTS by PlayStore before testing) Unfortunately, the PlayStore doesn't provide the newer GoogleTTS for updating, so I still can not pass the GTS if we use older GoogleTTS. Thanks, Jason. |
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Hi Jason Thank you for checking Please let me know when you get a feedback from Google or 3PL. Thanks YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, GTS team asked us to use GTS11_r1 preview tool to run GtsSpeechServicesTestCases module this afternoon. But the result is still fail. I've sent the test result to Google. I just let you know that GTS team is working on it. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi YK, Please check the Google feedback as below, "GTS 11 preview which includes the fix will have build id >= 10153700, It may take up to a week for it to be shared with you, sorry for that." Last week, the build id of preview tool I got from Google was 10150072, After I get new GTS 11 preview tool, I'll verify it again. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason Thank you for the update. Thanks YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, GTS team has fix the failure, now we can pass GtsSpeechServicesTestCases without GoogleTTS. so I'll remove GoogleTTS from prebuilt image. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason Thank you for update and I was going to request Uncompress, but you already applied it. Thank you for applying it in advance. FYI, apple_tvplus will be removed from SPTEK as well. https://jira.skbroadband.com/browse/BPM-19051 Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi Jason I shared this situation with SKB. But HomeUI is using the GoogleTTS feature. So Google TTS has to exist and just proceed with a small size file. Please proceed with Google test after changing to the small size version that was used in Android 10 version before. And please check whether it is pass or fail. Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, We had tested GTS with Small size file before. the results were fail, (that was why we upgraded the GoogleTTS before), and we can not update it from PlayStore that I've verified it. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason First of all, please insert Google TTS again. Since apple_tvplus is removed, it seems that there will be space. And This is a confirmation request from SKB. A previous failure occurred when using an earlier version of Google TTS (small size). Does it fail even if I use the latest tool? if the test result is fail, could you please ask the Google team for additional requests so that it can be pass even when using Google TTS (small size).? Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK >>First of all, please insert Google TTS again. >>Since apple_tvplus is removed, it seems that there will be space. Done >>And This is a confirmation request from SKB. >>A previous failure occurred when using an earlier version of Google TTS (small size). >>Does it fail even if I use the latest tool? Yes >>if the test result is fail, could you please ask the Google team for additional requests so that it can be pass even when using Google TTS (small size).? This is unacceptable, if we want to preload the Google app, we should use fresh apps as much as possible. if you are Google, you don't want your end-user to use older version application, because older version might have bugs or vulnerabilities Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason >> >>if the test result is fail, could you please ask the Google team for additional requests so that it can be pass even when using Google TTS (small size).? >> This is unacceptable, if we want to preload the Google app, we should use fresh apps as much as possible. if you are Google, you don't want your end-user to use older version application, because older version might have bugs or vulnerabilities I understand what you mean. but now, SKB is not asking FXN's opinion SKB is asking for Google's opinion. Please check it. Thanks YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, We've checked the GTVS requirement, Android TV devices MUST include all required Google apps (GTVS apps) listed in the APK list on the GTVS downloads page. Partners are STRONGLY RECOMMENDED to use the latest version of the apps and can launch with an earlier version of the apps only if the app version in question was released less than 60 days prior. The requirement is very clear, we can not use very old version app, we should use the latest app as fresh as possible. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason I see what's written in the document. but the apk that I'm talking about right now is not mandatory apk, but optional apk. SKB is asking for Google's answer. Please check it Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, The "Optional" means you can pre-build it or not. if you want to pre-build it, you should use the latest app as fresh as possible. Thanks Jason |
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Hi Jason The request from SKB is to ask for Google's opinion. Can I tell SKB manager that the content you're talking about is Google's opinion? Thanks YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, Yes, the requirement is very clear. Thanks, Jason |
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Hi Jason SKB's request is not to check Google's website, but to ask Google directly and ask for a feedback. I've talked a few times, but SKB's request is Google's feedback. Please check it Thank you YK.Jung |
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Hi YK, The requirements on the website are very clear, and based on past experience, if the answer can be found on the website, Google will say why not investigate the website in advance, it will impact our impression, we also have other customer, impact our impression for Google is not allowed. please understand situation. if SKB still want to check it, I think SKB can check it with Google directly, Thanks, Jason |
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Hi YK, I've checked it with 3PL Pleases check the attachment. English translation The "Optional" means you can pre-build it or not. if you pre-build earlier version and get failures, you can NOT get waiver. |
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Hi Jason This issue has been closed by SKB. I will contact you again if there is any additional request from SKB. Thank you for your support. YK.Jung |
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| 2023-03-27 13:07 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | New Issue | |
| 2023-03-27 13:07 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Status | new => assigned |
| 2023-03-27 13:07 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Assigned To | => (SW) Kerwin Chen |
| 2023-03-27 13:08 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Issue Monitored: (ALTech) SY Yoon | |
| 2023-03-27 13:08 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Issue Monitored: (ALTech) JunGyu Kim | |
| 2023-03-27 13:42 | (SW) Kerwin Chen | Assigned To | (SW) Kerwin Chen => (SW) Sam Yang |
| 2023-03-28 12:23 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012661 | |
| 2023-03-28 19:36 | (SW) Sam Yang | Note Added: 0012666 | |
| 2023-03-29 07:46 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012667 | |
| 2023-03-30 09:46 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012674 | |
| 2023-03-30 15:41 | (SW) Sam Yang | Note Added: 0012681 | |
| 2023-03-30 15:41 | (SW) Sam Yang | File Added: image.png | |
| 2023-03-30 15:41 | (SW) Sam Yang | File Added: image-2.png | |
| 2023-03-30 15:41 | (SW) Sam Yang | File Added: image-3.png | |
| 2023-03-30 15:42 | (SW) Sam Yang | Note Edited: 0012681 | |
| 2023-03-30 15:42 | (SW) Sam Yang | Note Edited: 0012681 | |
| 2023-03-30 15:43 | (SW) Sam Yang | Issue Monitored: (SW) Sam Yang | |
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| 2023-04-10 08:20 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012764 | |
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| 2023-04-11 08:55 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012784 | |
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| 2023-04-11 14:00 | (SW) Sam Yang | Note Added: 0012799 | |
| 2023-04-11 14:01 | (SW) Sam Yang | Assigned To | (SW) Sam Yang => (ALTech) Younkwang Jung |
| 2023-04-18 12:28 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012908 | |
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| 2023-04-21 13:19 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0012946 | |
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| 2023-04-21 14:06 | (SW) Sam Yang | Note Added: 0012947 | |
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| 2023-05-25 17:59 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0013236 | |
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| 2023-06-05 07:16 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0013289 | |
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| 2023-06-08 08:12 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0013308 | |
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| 2023-06-19 08:40 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Note Added: 0013427 | |
| 2024-05-09 13:30 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Status | assigned => closed |
| 2024-05-09 13:30 | (ALTech) Younkwang Jung | Resolution | open => not fixable |
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